It made me think a lot more about the 3rd Wave movement.
My only comment might be that using small-scale farmers as examples of 'owning the means of production' is probably a mischaracterisation of Marxist thinking on the subject.
It's not the question of whether you own a small farm or processing plant, it's whether as a class (class in Marxism shock!) you 'own' the economic system.
In this instance it would be asking which countries and types of business 'own' the systems of production, distribution, trade etc in the global coffee trade, which you both correctly identified as neoliberal issues.
But that's just a minor quibble, I read the entire transcript and will give it a listen too!
Don't feel bad! I know I've stated somewhere that I don't engage in comments written in bad faith, but those comments almost always have the same tenor (a telltale sign is when they use my name in a pedantic manner like I'm being scolded). I appreciate the clarification and hope comments can be a place for respectful engagement!
This was a really good interview - More anthropology on Boss Barista please!
I'll do my best to recruit more to be on the show! Thanks Jack as always!!!
Wish I knew anthropologists working on coffee and grower communities (or even come consumption sites in the States - ethnographies of Starbucks!
But this seems interesting, on Fair Trade coffee, by Sarah Lyons: https://upcolorado.com/university-press-of-colorado/item/1911-coffee-and-community
And on Starbucks: re ‘coffee culture’ in the States: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jpoc.21118
Thanks for this very thoughtful conversation!
Thank you Kate!!
That interview was fantastic!
It made me think a lot more about the 3rd Wave movement.
My only comment might be that using small-scale farmers as examples of 'owning the means of production' is probably a mischaracterisation of Marxist thinking on the subject.
It's not the question of whether you own a small farm or processing plant, it's whether as a class (class in Marxism shock!) you 'own' the economic system.
In this instance it would be asking which countries and types of business 'own' the systems of production, distribution, trade etc in the global coffee trade, which you both correctly identified as neoliberal issues.
But that's just a minor quibble, I read the entire transcript and will give it a listen too!
You're right — I definitely simplified the argument and in the process left out some nuance! Good catch!
Felt bad writing the comment to be honest as I enjoyed the exchange so much.
I can't stress how much I'm happy to have found your blog and podcast!
Don't feel bad! I know I've stated somewhere that I don't engage in comments written in bad faith, but those comments almost always have the same tenor (a telltale sign is when they use my name in a pedantic manner like I'm being scolded). I appreciate the clarification and hope comments can be a place for respectful engagement!